I was over at forums.archosfans.com and saw that many have gotten their hands on the Archos GEN8 tablets.

It’s a great device from the youtube videos that I have posted and makes you think that for once we have finally got something:
- Good screen size (7 and 10 inch)
- WIFI and BT
- Good processor Cortex A8 1 GHZ
- adequate ram 256 MB (wish it was 512MB)
- Micro SD card expansion
- And a whole lot of others
This could be the one that will kick iPad’s ass.
Sadly it is not to be. I find that the offerings once it reaches Singapore is expensive.
For an Archos 10 inch comparable to iPad at 8GB is SGD 499 and 16GB is SGD 599.
An iPAd 16GB WIFI version is SGD 728. That’s only 128 bucks more than the 16GB Archos 16GB. It makes a tough decision but if the Archos delivers greater value than the iPad, it might be worth while to go with the Archos GEN8 101.
Archos greater value than the iPad?
The thing that Apple does well is release a device with good quality control and for the iPad it has a lot of value because it has
- a lot of good todo list
- a lot of good note taking app
- a lot of good ebook readers
- a lot of good pdf readers
The existing third party apps really add value and it is easy to find them on the app store.
Compare this to the Archos
- No Android Market place (that is without a hack). The softwares on AppLib is much lesser than that of Android Marketplace
- There are good ebook readers, both with kindle and nook and kobo support
- No good PDF readers that are prominent
- Note taking apps are not meant for 7 or 10 inch
- Same for To-Do apps.
In terms of quality control, Archos seems to rush out their tablets such that the people at the forum is facing a lot of issues
I have spent all afternoon having nothing but problems with my just received Archos 101
Most of the issues are due to the touch screen but also the firmware. I had to do a low level system restore to get it out of a perpetual rebooting.
2 times I have got it stable and reload some apps only to find that I put it down for 1/2 hour and its unusable.
I called the supplier who I purchased it from and they said 25% of those shipped out are being returned.
Archos seem to like there name being associated with carp unreliable buggy equipment, how can a company survive when they let out such equipment for sale. No wonder there will be non available for another month, its because they might have finally twigged that it a bad idea to Piss 25% of your customer base off.
A not very happy 101 owner (not for long though)
Now I wonder how many people generally encounter this on the iPad
Here is a buyer of a Viewsonic Tablet and what he thinks of his purchase:
I have the viewsonic, let me tell you if you think archos rushed theirs out wait til you get this one. The hardware is impressive HOWEVER:
- no 1080p avc(or even 720p)
- my wifi works 20% of the time
- you need to reboot whenever you put int an sd card for it to see it
- no flash
- no app store
- random factory resets on it’s own.
- touchscreen keeps going dead in spots.
- screen angles are terrible(only real hardware complaint)
Viewsonic says they don’t know what’s defective hardware and what will be fixed with FW, and FW will come “sometime in the next month”
don’t get me wrong this platform has amazing potential, but for now it’s going back and i’m thanking my lucky stars I kept my a101 pre-order alive.
And comments about the support:
I’m used to messing around with the kit and so will most people here. If I was in isolation I would have considered I was unlucky. But when I call tech support for the company I purchased it from they said 25% of the sales were in the process of being returned. 25% that 1 in 4!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If I purchase a product I do not expect to have to do system resets, reboots, calibations every 1/2 hour to keep it going. £300 is a lot of money to me. I wanted the tablet and stumped up the money to purchase it against my normal practice of being cautious and letting things settle first.
Now I was really Pissed of when I made the first post. I waited in for 2 days while delivery people failed to bother to deliver adhere to there “next day delivery” promise. Then only to find that it failed to work. I did not say though either that the acceleration failed to work at the start either. I had to do every thing with the screen upside down to the way the stand wanted to be laid out. Only after the first full reboot
The reason I have not posted before is I only had got the device today, but I had been reading the forums in anticipation. So when I get pissed of were do I go? I make my self herd.
If you read my posts I do say that if your one of the 75% who’s does work then all well and good, I hope you fall into that camp. But a device that can change from minute to minute, there is something wrong and until they sort that I cannot recommend it.
Remember what I said 25% returns, I feel sorry for the retailer.
Remember that in Singapore I pay almost 100 SGD more for the Archos if I buy it. But that is probably the cost of having warranty. Warranty and Support is very important if you do not know how well the product is built.
Pricing
I have highlighted some problems with Android’s identity and Custom ROM issues but essentially if these manufacturers wants to compete they really have to
- Focus on delivering what the user wants
- Have adequate support and build a good community via responsive feedback and support
- Being a great systems integrator
- Great price for value given
We are not seeing this currently.
In this ZDNet post, the author talks about competitors still cannot reach iPad’s pricing point:
In recent days, tablet pricing details have emerged. To wit:
- Samsung’s 7-inch Galaxy Tab will run you $499 for a Wi-Fi version (top right). That price matches Apple’s iPad pricing and Samsung is packing in some key hardware features. But Samsung isn’t likely to move the needle on thwarting Apple.
- ViewSonic announced its ViewPad Android devices (bottom right). The ViewPad 7-inch version will run you $479. The 10-inch version will run you $629. Both versions are Wi-Fi with no 3G.
- The HP Slate 500 has Windows 7 will cost you $799. Even though the HP Slate is geared for business use, there were plenty of chief information officers with iPads at the Gartner powwow last month.
- Will Research in Motion’s pricing on the PlayBook even be in the ballpark? We don’t know yet, but it’s unlikely.
These prices illustrate how aggressive Jobs was at the iPad launch. Apple had the device and the pricing to arguably grab at least an 18-month lead.
So what happened?
- Apple built its own chips to take on an industry that clearly wasn’t ready for the iPad’s launch. It will take the Android ecosystem another rev on the product cycle just to approach what Apple has today.
- The players taking on Apple all have some sort of restriction. Apple has its own components, software and design specs. Apple also doesn’t give a hoot where it gets its parts. Now contrast that with rivals. Samsung as a massive tech conglomerate has a few built in advantages, but it’s Korea’s champion. The company is not going to go to China for parts.
- The software ecosystem isn’t ready. Microsoft is cramming Windows 7 into a tablet. HP has the webOS waiting in the wings. Android isn’t quite tablet ready yet. Apple had the ecosystem and operating system. Apple just had to add a 10-inch screen.
A few weeks ago, it appeared that Jobs was just ranting about Android on the company’s earnings conference call. But one thing he had right in that well-documented rant was the pricing model as iPad mote.
“Our potential competitors are having a tough time coming close to iPad’s pricing even with their far smaller, far less expensive screens. The iPad incorporates everything we’ve learned about building high value products from iPhones, iPods and Macs. We create our own A4 chip, our own software, our own battery chemistry, our own enclosure, our own everything, and this results in an incredible product at a great price. The proof of this will be in the pricing of our competitors’ products which will likely offer less for more.”
Conclusion
I was pretty hyped up about these Archos Series. Now not so much really. As an end user, I want a great user experience at great value.
I thought the Archos GEN8 101 or 70 could be it. Now I am not so sure. I could probably get a better reading, surfing, personal information management experience on the iPad, even though its out of my pricing range.
All in all Android is a great OS but the manufacturers are still not getting it.